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Take that, you French bastards
Previous | Next by ralph 11 March, 2003 - 9:54 AM

And in other news, Congressional lawmakers have run out of things to do.

Freedom Fries or Freedom Toast anyone?

France Surrenders.




3/11/2003 >> Anne

Yes. This makes perfect sense!

Because yes folks, french fries and french toast are traditional french cuisine. Just like American Chinese food is exactly what people eat in China. And don't forget Hamburgers are German, all turkeys come from Turkey, and all Italians of course use italian dressing.

Now we can watch all the fast food corporations of America go bankrupt. This will help the economy folks!


3/11/2003 >> ralph

What I like is that fries aren't French at all....they're Belgian.


3/11/2003 >> pyrex

And actually, the Romans invented the basic hamburger.


3/11/2003 >> rich

the best zinger I heard is :
Because they are so greasy why not just keep them named as they are!

ba ding


3/11/2003 >> spike

who didnt see this one coming? really? I mean how much more xenophobic and ignorant can this congress become?


3/11/2003 >> ralph

rumor has it that they're going to force Victoria's Secret to change the name to 'Freedom Cut' Panties.


3/11/2003 >> Anne

freedom panties...

Now that's an oxymoron

Although I will admit they do sell some thongs that feel like you have nothing on at all...


3/11/2003 >> pete

Great scott... leave it to the Republican party to prove that progress is impossible. What is this, 1917? Grow the fuck up.


3/12/2003 >> ChrisA

NPR had the best commentary on the story yesterday afternoon. The french would be more insulted if we took the worst of our American cuisine and added the word "french" before it.

mmmmm... french chittlin's

Here's the link to the audio:

here

"Forget "freedom fries," says commentator James Poniewozik. A real French cultural chauvinist would rather see a Republican Guard unit on their street than a Burger King. If you really want to annoy the French, don't take their name off crappy American foods -- put it on more of them. Pop Tarts? Make them French Toasties. "


3/12/2003 >> spike

LOL, sometimes NPR really gets me laughing, which is needed these days more and more.

I am increasingly embarrassed to be an American. Really how pathetic and parochial can a country full of such wealth and power and potential be?

Its been said before that the US is a young country and acts like a teenager, i know Ben and i have talked about this and it has been a popular analogy in comperative culture studies, but doesnt it seem as if the US is actually regressing. First the congress going out and screaming the Pledge the first time the court found it unconsitutional and now this?? (not that this is a unique occurrence, liberty cabage anyone?) But our congress is acting with less maturity than a 4 year old. Petty, stupid and i will repeat myself, welcome to a US that will become even more insular and hateful to those that dont do everything we want them to. *argh*


3/12/2003 >> ben

i was thinking last night, that it seems a lot of the laws and ideas we have problems with are due to the fact that they come from a pre-industrial society, and most of us here are from a post-industrial, information age upbringing. ergo, the ideas that seemed so brilliant 200 years ago do not hold with us, as we have a shift in our beliefs.

i wonder if we'd actually get along with any of the founding fathers, brothers, sister mother? what?


3/12/2003 >> spike

i had somewhat similar thought the other day. i was thinking aout the idiocy of a 'strict constructionalist' judicial philosophy. You know the idea that the constitution should be interpreted only as the founding fathers (go patriarchy!) would have intended. How have people fallen for such illogical bullshit?? The problems of the world today would be incomprehensible to the people of 18th century america and we want our great judges to think like them?? I mean i guess thats why they call themselves conservatives, but theres a difference between conserving good things and just sticking ones head in the sand and ignoring inevitable change in a society.


3/12/2003 >> ben

i don't think that they were all bad... seriously, they were doing a lot more than anyone else at the time, and you have a natural progression to these things you know? you don't start with thag in the cave inventing the wheel and have existential philosophy the next day...

and with people, well, comfort levels are pretty exorbiatant for most people, i.e. change is tough, you know.. can't expect much out of them can you?


3/14/2003 >> Casey

I don't know. I like the constitution mostly. The document was built to provide for change. The forefathers did anticipate a future they could not comprehend and hoped that the framework they set up could be successfully adapted to it. I think that the idiocy we see with our politicians today has much less to do with the constituion itself than the plain vanilla idiocy of our leaders. Even the "strict constructionalist" way of thinking sees the hypocrisies of the founding fathers and has made efforts to rectify them (ergo, slavery, church and state, etc.). I come from a post-industrial society but I still think that freedom of speech and press, religion, and even the right ot bear arms are pretty brilliant. Of course I do have an issue with this whole republic issue. I think a shift to a purer democracy would be better (the electoral college has got to go). As far as papers go, the constitution isn't a bad one I think. If anything I think we could do with some more freedom of press and more separation of church and state. Most of my problems stem from our leaders who are ignoring the Constitution.


3/14/2003 >> ben

that makes sense, casey, and i agree that the constitution allows for and encourages change (hence all the amendments), it just seems that whenever a leader today wants creedence, they look for precedent from those characters, or someone in history, and i think, you can't base your actions on theirs.

the constitution is great, best document to outline a government ever, just the people surrounding it should no longer be the basis for our decision making process, i think.


2/20/2004 >> pyrex

Heh, now can this thread die plzkthx? Great.


2/20/2004 >> ben

my my... pushing some buttons around here are we? better watch out or the grammar fuhrer will come after you by the way...

and by the by, just a point (i posted the rules of debate up about a month ago now)... it's usually not considered helpful to insult those you are arguing with, at least not if you hope to win your argument...




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