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Previous | Next by muhgcee 05 June, 2003 - 10:27 AM

Lines like this make reading a Perl book bearable: "Regular expressions may be greedy, but they aren't into delayed gratification."




6/5/2003 >> erato

LOL! i liked perl for it's regular expressions, alone.

(perl is a web devel language like javascript, but looks more like c or c++)


6/5/2003 >> erato

it also plays very well with MySQL.


6/5/2003 >> ChrisA

I'm actually taking a PERL class this semester so I can become more comfortable w/ using regular expressions.

but you're right muhgee.. text used in some of these programming books are crap. it's as if these writers are bored w/ the technical writing and decide to spice it up a little. ugh


6/5/2003 >> erato

i was surprised to find that vb actually had some regular expressions mixed in (join, split). that's all i'd found to date, but impressive.


6/5/2003 >> rich

there are many computer books here, Craigers is in charge of the Sci-Fi book shelf in the living room


6/5/2003 >> muhgcee

erato - to be more specific, Perl is a scripting language which can be used on the web. I have barely used it on the web as I mostly use it for "sysadmin" type scripting. Dren - I actually enjoy reading. I only read 2 or 3 full books a year, but that is probably more than most people. Last two books read - 1984 and Roots. The Jungle by Upton Sinclair is next.


6/5/2003 >> muhgcee

Hmm . . . looks like I forgot to add a subject here. Oh well.


6/6/2003 >> muhgcee

What do you mean by "once you go past the point of no return there's no going back. Try something fun!"? And I will gladly read that book if you want to lend it to me :-D


6/6/2003 >> muhgcee

hehe sure, sounds good to me. I surely won't complain. Sep 15.


6/6/2003 >> muhgcee

and I'll be the ripe old age of 20.


6/6/2003 >> muhgcee

Wow, that's weird. I remember when I used to think 20-year-olds were old.


6/6/2003 >> ralph

hehe, me too.....now 20 is so young...

I feel old..


6/6/2003 >> ralph

I am Alpha dog, hear me bark.


6/9/2003 >> erato

i figured perl had other uses but never toyed with it. i just did some web development with it (mainly MySQl tho) for a few months. interesting to know tho, thanks.


6/9/2003 >> ben

i love watching people argue over what makes dominance... it makes me feel like the one fan in the stands waving the pennant.

perl is useful for many things... i would propose to anyone that they use PHP for web dev over straight perl, it has helpful tidbits and it portable to just about anything (this from an asp developer, snicker),

also, vbscript 5.0 and above (since VS 6.0) has regular expressions, as does javascript, also .NET has the most robust regexp engine that i've seen from microsoft.

lastly... in financial news, PeopleSoft bought JD (Powers||Edwards) last monday, and were gobbled by the bigger fish of Oracle on wednesday or friday, i can't remember which. was entertaining when NPR quoted Qui Gon Jinn from episode I


6/9/2003 >> Render

The .Net regexp is still buggy. And their documentation, as is usually the case, stinks.

Theoretically, anything that can be done in ASP can be done in Perlscript with the Activestate (or whatever they're calling themselves these days) installation, but I don't know whether they ported Perl's regex libraries or used Microsoft's. Probably the former, but you never know.


6/9/2003 >> erato

.net, bah humbug.. ben knows how i feel about that wreckage. i was irritated at everything about it. give me notepad over it anyday, i'd rather freehand ASP.


6/9/2003 >> ralph

ugh, the whole Edwards/Peoplesoft/Oracle debacle has my field in turmoil right now. I specialize in JD Edwards and have no idea WTF is going on right now...who knows if they'll even have a product in two years....


6/9/2003 >> erato

all this coming from a vb / powerbuilder developer, lol.


6/9/2003 >> Render

Sounds like a good time to short all of them. Given my experience working with Peoplesoft and Oracle, and working for JD Edwards, any kind of integration of management, let alone product lines, is going to be a fiasco.


6/9/2003 >> erato

question for you jd edwards/peoplesoft people: are all their products proprietary like oracle. aka- they all have their own languages?

it'd be interesting to see how they'd integrate it, if that were the case..


6/9/2003 >> ralph

render, you worked for Edwards?


6/9/2003 >> Render

From the JD Edwards side, I'm assuming they would drop World (old and poorly maintained AS/400 JPL DB/2 VSAM nastiness) and just support One World going forward. It's possible One World might integrate with Oracle Financials and such, although that might be limited to the data tier (I didn't have to get into One World's architecture very much, thankfully).

I'm guessing that this is an attempt on Oracle's part to stake a claim in the corporate infrastructure world, since the database-agnostic architecture works more in Microsoft's favor than theirs (if only from a price standpoint, if not an administrative standpoint). If that's the case, they may not bother doing any integration at the application layer at all, just reap the benefit of being able to say, "Look, you've already got an instance of Oracle running to support X. Make use of it rather than going to Microsoft."


6/9/2003 >> Render

I had a long gig at Edwards that was, roughly, centered around documenting and aggregating their data architecture, although the specific goals changed every few months, and the project died when the old CEO decided to take the reins again (with 6 hours notice that my contract wouldn't be extended ... bastards).




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